Interesting to say the least

Right-wing conspiracy theories FTW.

Al Gore never said he invented the internet. Memorized Republican talking points ftw?

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My only point in my tiny post was this. Iceman says he doesn't believe conspiracy theories. But he does. He just believes the ones that favor the Republicans (and their talking points), not the ones that implicate them.

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Nobody posting on either side of the debate is actually interested in learning about statistical models or finding out how many Iraqis may or may not be dead, just in propping up their own preconceived biases.

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Shorter version: standard political thread on all sides. Nothing to see here.

I dont believe either study. Im non partisan in these propoganda campaigns.

Either way its a shitload of people dead though. Seems like arguing over how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.

War sucks, lots of people die, sometimes it is necessary, othertimes it is criminal. Who the fuck cares how many hundreds of thousands are dead?

Get back to the real debate, plz. This changes nothing.

From Wikipedia:

Soros has been active as a philanthropist since the 1970s, when he began providing funds to help black students attend the University of Cape Town in apartheid South Africa, and began funding dissident movements behind the iron curtain.

Soros' philanthropic funding in Central and Eastern Europe mostly occurs through the Open Society Institute (OSI) and national Soros Foundations, which sometimes go under other names, e.g., the Stefan Batory Foundation in Poland. As of 2003, PBS[16] estimated that he had given away a total of $4 billion.

He has promoted non-violent efforts to increase democracy in many countries.

The OSI says it has spent about $400 million annually in recent years.

TIME Magazine in 2007 cited two specific projects - $100 million toward internet infrastructure for regional Russian universities; and $50 million for the Millennium Promise to eradicate extreme poverty in Africa - while noting that Soros has given $742 million to projects in the U.S., and given away a total of more than $6 billion.[17]

Other notable projects have included aid to scientists and universities throughout Central and Eastern Europe, help to civilians during the siege of Sarajevo, worldwide efforts to repeal drug prohibition laws, and Transparency International. Soros also pledged an endowment of €420 million to the Central European University (CEU). The Nobel Peace Prize winner, Muhammad Yunus and his microfinance bank Grameen Bank received support from the OSI.

According to the National Review[18] the Open Society Institute gave $20,000 in September 2002 to the Defense Committee of Lynne Stewart, the lawyer who has defended alleged terrorists in court and was sentenced to 2⅓ years in prison for "providing material support for a terrorist conspiracy" via a press conference for a client. An OSI spokeswoman said "it appeared to us at that time that there was a right-to-counsel issue worthy of our support."

In September 2006, Soros departed from his characteristic sponsorship of democracy building programs, pledging $50 million to the Jeffrey Sachs-led Millennium Promise to help eradicate extreme poverty in Africa. Noting the connection between bad governance and poverty, he remarked on the humanitarian value of the project.[19]

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Yeah, those crazy liberals with their nutso beliefs that these are good causes.