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flush draw Q high + opened straight draw

Postby IBA » Sun Feb 03, 2008 10:47 am

Hi all,

New member from France so sorry for my approximativ english.

Full Tilt Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
6 players


Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with :td :8s :qh :9h
Hero raises to $0.55, 2 folds, Button calls, SB folds, BB calls.

Flop: :2h :th :7c ($1.75, 3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.85, Button raises to $4.3.
Hero ???
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Postby emmasdad » Sun Feb 03, 2008 11:03 am

Include stack sizes please.

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Postby briachek » Sun Feb 03, 2008 11:05 am

I'm assuming full stacks since you didn't include them and that the bb folds to the button raise. First, I don't like your small raise preflop. Pot raise it. Second, you have a huge hand but people probably don't realize how big so if you pot bet it, it makes someone that much more committed to come after you by raising which is fine. you will be in great shape against almost all hands. Reraise flop and get it all in because you have so many outs you don't want to lose him if you hit and he gets scared.
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Postby IBA » Sun Feb 03, 2008 12:31 pm

Thanks :)

Yep, problems with hand converter for the stack size! sorry.

Agree with you for the bet pot on flop briachek. Against a set, it's a 45/55 (middle set ) or 41/59 ( top set ) for him so ev- for me if i go all in and he has the set. He could have a better flush draw too and in this case it's very very bad for me. But it's hard to fold a hand like that.

HH with stack size, positions....


Full Tilt Poker Game #5105368367: Table Joust (6 max) - $0.10/$0.25 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 11:12:59 ET - 2008/02/03
Seat 1: Mr Amygdala ($66.45)
Seat 2: BIG_is_ALIVE ($22.20)
Seat 3: NCMM84 ($19.30)
Seat 4: manv ($25.70)
Seat 5: dispatch3d ($25)
Seat 6: IBA85 ($13.45)
manv posts the small blind of $0.10
dispatch3d has 5 seconds left to act
dispatch3d posts the big blind of $0.25
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to IBA85 [Td] [8s] [Qh] [9h]
IBA85 raises to $0.55
Mr Amygdala folds
BIG_is_ALIVE folds
NCMM84 calls $0.55
manv folds
dispatch3d has 15 seconds left to act
dispatch3d calls $0.30
*** FLOP *** [2h] [Th] [7c]
dispatch3d checks
IBA85 bets $0.85
NCMM84 raises to $4.30
dispatch3d folds
IBA85 ???
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Postby briachek » Sun Feb 03, 2008 12:36 pm

def all in with your stack size but i'll repeat about potting preflop and flop.

the problem with your stack size is that you can't put as much pressure on the guy you could if you have a full stack. there have been times when people test you on these boards after you raise and fold (although not often). With your weak bets, you could easily have induced this guy to raise you light like with a pair and mediocre flush draw that will not want to go all in. Either way, you will never be really terrible shape so just get it in.
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Postby Kuso » Sun Feb 03, 2008 12:52 pm

wwcrd?

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Postby Kuso » Sun Feb 03, 2008 12:53 pm

wwcrd?

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Postby IBA » Sun Feb 03, 2008 1:18 pm

Thanks for the answers.

Yes, so many nuts pedaller at lower limits. My 1/2 bet pot on flop shows weakness, and so there are possibility that he tried to outplay me on that flop with the position, it's why i reraise all-in. If i had bet the pot, his reraise pot means a set for me and perhaps i fold ( flush draw not max ).

Full Tilt Poker Game #5105368367: Table Joust (6 max) - $0.10/$0.25 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 11:12:59 ET - 2008/02/03
Seat 1: Mr Amygdala ($66.45)
Seat 2: BIG_is_ALIVE ($22.20)
Seat 3: NCMM84 ($19.30)
Seat 4: manv ($25.70)
Seat 5: dispatch3d ($25)
Seat 6: IBA85 ($13.45)
manv posts the small blind of $0.10
dispatch3d has 5 seconds left to act
dispatch3d posts the big blind of $0.25
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to IBA85 [Td] [8s] [Qh] [9h]
IBA85 raises to $0.55
Mr Amygdala folds
BIG_is_ALIVE folds
NCMM84 calls $0.55
manv folds
dispatch3d has 15 seconds left to act
dispatch3d calls $0.30
*** FLOP *** [2h] [Th] [7c]
dispatch3d checks
IBA85 bets $0.85
NCMM84 raises to $4.30
dispatch3d folds
IBA85 raises to $12.90, and is all in
NCMM84 calls $8.60
IBA85 shows [Td] [8s] [Qh] [9h]
NCMM84 shows [8d] [8h] [Ts] [Tc]
dispatch3d adds $0.55
*** TURN *** [2h] [Th] [7c] [Ac]
*** RIVER *** [2h] [Th] [7c] [Ac] [7s]
IBA85 shows two pair, Tens and Sevens
NCMM84 shows a full house, Tens full of Sevens
NCMM84 wins the pot ($26.20) with a full house, Tens full of Sevens
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Postby briachek » Sun Feb 03, 2008 3:09 pm

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Postby IBA » Sun Feb 03, 2008 4:19 pm

Yes i'm agree with you on PLO200+ where the game is very aggresive but at this limit there are so many nuts-pedaller. And I know that so with what kind of hand can he reraises me ?

[Td] [8s] [Qh] [9h] vs [Ah] [4h] [Tc] [Kd] ----> 40/60
[Td] [8s] [Qh] [9h] vs [Ah] [4h] [6c] [Kd] ----> 55/45
[Td] [8s] [Qh] [9h] vs top set ----> 40/60
[Td] [8s] [Qh] [9h] vs middle set ----> 45/55

On a very agressive table, I think my move is ev+ but in PLO25 whit so many nuts pedaller, I don't know.
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Postby briachek » Sun Feb 03, 2008 10:51 pm

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