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Postby AlamdeaMike » Mon Jul 04, 2005 10:45 am

Live NLHE $200 buyin 3,2,2 blinds, 10 players.

I have A2s in the BB. UTG+3 makes a standard raise to $12. Cost me $9 more.

The flop is A82. Well, I have $180 its early and I am a little sleepy. I think my 2 pair is good. I do not think the player had A8 or AA - I figure big Ace or an over pair.

I bet $15 and he called (he had $500). The turn was a blank as I remember it and I pushed all-in. Of course he called me with a set of 8's.

Bad play or bad read - or both?

I know I deserve losing for playing such a marginal hand as A2s but any two pair would have lost.




BTW,

A few hands later this player had 99 vs 88 and the flop was 89x - they both pushed all-in and he got more of his $2000 for the day.

I also lost to him (me) KK vs (his) Q8o.

He crushed the table; him (KTo) , me (KQs), UTG (AKo) - flop T high - I mucked and AK lost $250. I lost $25 - I know, bad call with KQs.



Thanks for any advice. Like check the Turn - make a 1/2 pot bet?
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Postby Stoneburg » Mon Jul 04, 2005 12:04 pm

If the pot was heads-up, which I assume since you don't say anything about callers, I think it is an absolute disaster to call an early position raise with A2. If there are multiple callers before it gets to you, you could consider a call since you're closing the betting at least, but playing a junk hand like A2 out of positio will always be at best a marginal play IMO.

You're all-in on the turn is also pretty bad I think. You're making it a pretty easy fold for AK and will most lilely only be called by hands that crush you. Top and Bottom pair is not a huge hand.
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Postby kennyg » Mon Jul 04, 2005 12:46 pm

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Postby AlamdeaMike » Wed Jul 06, 2005 6:33 pm

Actually, thinking about it - a PF fold was the best play. As I remember it I think I had less than $120 and considering the size of the pot I though that all-in was a good idea. I would have been happy with the current pot.

Yup, I played it pretty poorly.

Thanks for the feed back. Maybe NL is just not my best game and I need to work on it some more.

I have been playine Limit for 3 years and only 3 months NL ring games. More study and more practice.

My real question was around reading the possible hands after the flop.
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Postby iceman5 » Wed Jul 06, 2005 6:39 pm

How can he have an overpair when theres and ace on the flop?

Turn all in = real bad
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Postby AlamdeaMike » Wed Jul 06, 2005 6:47 pm

Don't lose your entire stack in an unraised pot or with only one pair.
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Postby iceman5 » Wed Jul 06, 2005 7:08 pm

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Postby AlamdeaMike » Wed Jul 06, 2005 7:47 pm

Don't lose your entire stack in an unraised pot or with only one pair.
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Postby poker2006 » Thu Jul 07, 2005 2:48 am

Going all in is bad, you're going to fold all the hands that you want to call. Maybe AK will call you, but it's a big maybe. It's a very fishy play, just like when you know your opponent is drawing to a flush, then the flush card hits and you go all in to represent the flush. These are moves with very little upside and lots of downside. Sorry for hammering the same message.
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Postby AlamdeaMike » Thu Jul 07, 2005 7:52 am

well, guys I got the message. Thanks for the replys - I gave you all an easy one. :)
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