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Postby RedBarracuda » Mon Mar 24, 2008 4:36 am

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Postby dropthe72 » Mon Mar 24, 2008 1:46 pm

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Postby TableTiger1 » Wed Mar 26, 2008 12:52 pm

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Postby T-Rod » Wed Mar 26, 2008 1:23 pm

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Postby shamdonk » Wed Mar 26, 2008 4:51 pm

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Postby kennyg » Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:19 am

There is so much in this movie..... but I'll give it a shot over a few things.


Christianity/Horas

The Christian stuff was entirely new to me. It's interesting to say the least. I don't care too much about doing research since I'm agnostic... but if I were Christian I would def be checking it out. Rather find out I'm wrong than live in ignorance.

9/11 Conspiracy


This was portrayed in much more detail in the Loose Change movies. We discussed that movie on BTP for a long time, and ended up pissing off some people. www.loosechange911.com/

Anyway, my thoughts on the whole thing is that there are just too many coincidences for us to be told the entire truth. The thing that perturbs me more than anything else is tower 7 of the WTC. The excuses given for it coming down (some debris of the crash hit the gas tank at the bottom of the building causing the explosion and collapse... something along those lines) seems incredibly unlikely. I don't believe it for a second. The footage of it falling is remarkable. Straight down and quickly, just like it was imploded...

I'm not convinced the government did it all themselves in order to start a war... but I believe we are not being told the whole truth. I also believe the government has more control of the media than they should.

The Feds and Taxes

It's actually not a huge stretch for me to believe most of this. I'm not sure about the whole interest thing coming off of every dollar, but I believe most of everything else. That interview with the friend of the Rockfellar is pretty amazing.

It's funny that I hadn't even heard of this Amero (spelling?) business. How has this not been covered more in the media? We're signed up to switch to a new currency and merge our shit with other countries and only Lou Dobbs gives a crap?? Again our media sucks.

Overall, I think the video was stupid to say that, "Federal Income Tax all goes to paying for the interest." It's such a ludicrous statement. Even if it is partly true, most of the money is going to government programs and such. Statements like this hurt the movie's validity in my mind.

I do believe the bankers would love an implant and a world order. It's almost common sense really. God now I sound like a conspiracy theorist. Watch the movie before you judge those last statements!


Random Thoughts

I find it interesting that they claim Christianity is an outright myth, then state the fulfillment of so many prophecies from Revelations. I did a bible study when I was younger on Revelations. It's an fun chapter of the Bible to say the least. It prophecies that all the governments will unite into some world order (as the movie author claims is the bank's doing and will happen.) The bible says there will be a "mark" put onto the people, and once you take the mark you are beyond being saved. (Many have referred to it as being some kind of identification implant with all our monies etc... basically what the "bankers want.")


I think it's funny that the other message the movies brings is to love and understand one another and that race, sex, age etc don't matter. "We are one." If that's the case, why are you so upset about a possible one world government? Isn't that improving on that aspect?

In closing, I'm glad the movie will make people think. It does a good job of drawing the viewer in and makes one consider things that we really haven't thought enough about. It's a great point. In this country, I feel we don't think enough. We just watch as things happen, not paying attention, not caring enough... We should be angry, angry at our government... but mostly angry at ourselves, our ignorance.
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Postby kennyg » Thu Mar 27, 2008 1:55 pm

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Postby PZ » Thu Mar 27, 2008 3:35 pm

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Postby PZ » Thu Mar 27, 2008 3:49 pm

Re-reading ... I realize that I've used the word "seriously" too much. So in that vein, I'd like to suggest that we all read the Theory of Poker. Seriously. ;p
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Postby TableTiger1 » Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:53 pm

WTC1 and 2 did not collapse solely because of plane strikes.

This is very true.

1. Planes hit the building causing other things to happen

2. these other things weakened the structure enough that it had to fall.

3. Burning generators, rugs, office furniture blah blah blah.

3.The only way something falls if it hasn't been hit hard enough to the side is straight down.

4. Since the planes hit pretty high up a large amount of weight is now being supported by something that is not structurally sound.

5. Pancakage occurs. Once it starts at the top it will fall near free fall speed because of the top heavy weight dropping down.

This is the theory that abounds everywhere except for tinhatsville. Besides like 5 crazy intellectuals around the world this is pretty standard stuff. SO many objective agencies have analyzed that data and find no problems with 1 and 2's theory. Now WTC 7 is kinda strange but the official report sounds just as plausible as a conspiracy viewpoint.

The pentagon
What do you think it was hit by? There are many people who immediately after the attack stated they saw a PLANE hit the pentagon. Fragments were found from a plane around the pentagon.

Here is a link to the popular mechanics investigation into 911. See what you think.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technol ... 27842.html

This does not mean that political situations occured that might be on a conspiracy type of thing, I think power is being corrupted pretty heavily in our nations capital.

The suspension of habeus corpus is a glaring problem in my mind.



Some questions:

What was the source of the explosion noises just prior to the collapses? Seriously ... just tell me what those were and I'll believe you if it lines up.

How did 3 buildings fall straight down when logically there should have been some toppling happening? 1 maybe. 3? When not a single other building in history has done this? 3 in one day? The Oklahama building didn't fall like that. Half the building was taken out ... yet it stood. I've seen pictures of skyscrapers COMPLETELY gutted by fire ... still standing. Yet 3 buildings fell on the same day in the same way. We believe this was a natural cause and effect? Seriously?


Not sure on the bomb thing could be sounds of building materials blowing up. Water heaters and stuff.

Decent problems I guess but I did watch two giant planes hit skyscrapers -

A single other building has never been ran into by a commercial jetliner!

Tim McVeigh blew up a bomb. These are totally different scenarios. Does not compute for me.
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Postby kennyg » Thu Mar 27, 2008 5:17 pm

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Postby TableTiger1 » Thu Mar 27, 2008 7:20 pm

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