I just read Monk's post about corned beef and read about scrapple. So I'm curious, anyone else on this forum not a meat-eater? That is, anyone else a vegetarian or vegan like me? Or do you have a significant other who doesn't eat meat?

I haven't eaten meat in about six years now. And the past few months I've been abstaining from egg and dairy as well.

Come on, Prahlad Friedman and Howard Lederer are vegetarians, there has to be more vegetarian/vegan poker players!

My ex was a vegetarian, she tried to go Vegan but couldnt give up cheese. While I could never do it, I love meat to much, I have a lot of respect for vegetarians. It really is a much healthier lifestyle than eating meat, and a lot better for the world as a whole. Plus telling people that you are a vege can really bring out the ignorant idiot in people. If got a dollar for every time someone tell her that vege's dont get enough protien in their diet. This and I live in California, I can only imagine the BS that a being a Vege in a less liberal area would be like.

I think i will quote Ron White of the Blue Collar Comedy tour on this one. It might be a little off but basically he says "I didn't climb to the top of the food chain to eat salad"

Ya know, this thread reminds me of something my old man man used to always tell me.

He said 'Ya know son, them damn vegetarians, they's all a bunch of fucking pussies!'

Thad said though, i cant argue that against people that claim to be doing ti for health reasons. But 'My taste buds are more important than other peoples suffering.'?!?!?!

My goodness gracious though! However could anyone ever hope to substantiate something as thoroughly ludacrice as this? Maybe im unaware of the modern line on this subject, and maybe our bovine brothers have been upgraded to 'people' status for purposes of dumb political rhetoric, im not sure. And dont go giving me the cows-farting-depletes-the-ozone-layer argument, or else i am going to have to PM you en E-cock-slap, which hasnt been invented yet, but which i will pioneer and perfect in very short order should i hear any such mumblings.

Well, its good to see that a right wing wacko like myself and a commie like CJ can actually agree on something that actually is SLIGHTLY political. Sorta gives a glimmer of hope to the world eh?

I think the reverend horton heat said it best when he said:

Eat steak eat steak eat a big ol' steer, eat steak eat steak, then ya down one beer.
Eat beef eat beef, its a mighty good food, its a grade a meal when your in the mood....

I think bri pretty much hit the nail on the head. We're the master race on this dirtball, therefore, why shouldnt we eat whatever we want? If animals ruled the earth and we were in cages, im pretty sure they'd not have reservations about eating us.

Mecos... "my taste buds are more important than others suffering" is the psychological reason why most people eat meat. I've purposely phrased it in a rhetorical fashion, of course. No one would flat out say it like this, but isn't that really what you mean? When you say "I'm appalled by the animals suffering too, but they taste so damn good" aren't you really saying "I understand they are suffering, but I enjoy the taste enough to not want to do anything about it".

It's quite irrelevant whether animals are "people" or not. I'm not claiming they should have the right to vote and so forth. I'm saying animals also suffer, and we should be concerned about that.

The food chain... what a misunderstood concept. Once again, it's irrelevant where we are on a food chain, that we have teeth for chewing meat, and so on, so forth. The problem is... unlike the other animals, we have much more developed reasoning skills. We also have much more developed ethical systems. (Also, it's easier than ever to be a healthy vegetarian and will continue to become easier.) With all that in mind, we, unlike the other animals, might as well use these more developed parts of our brain for the better.

Do you accept that

1) animals suffer in factory-farms
2) we can live a healthy life without consuming animals
3) there would be less suffering by not eating animals

That's all you need to accept to understand the moral side of vegetarianism. Those are the biggest reasons I no longer eat animals.

Daniel Negreanu is another famous vegeterian poker player. That is all I have to contribute to this thread. Goodbye.








P.S. Nothing in this world that never had a conscious life tastes as good as lobster.

Jim Gaffigan is great.

"Bottles water!? Haha.......I guess I'll try it."

"Americans are so stupid you could sell those idiots water."
"Pierre, come on, Americans are stupid but they're not gonna buy water!"

Ate a near strict vegetarian diet for a decade, I discovered sushi and gave up the diet. If someone cooked a meal for me while I was more actively watching my diet and it was meat based, I would eat it anyways. I worked in a restaurant, I thought it was my responsibility to be able to objectively describe the flavor of all things on the menu whether I would normally eat it or not. I didn't ever quit eating game meat, but it would be a rarity to have it around. I don't have a problem with the suffering of animals, I was enjoying a lower fat diet with increased protien and a healthy amount of other nutrients. Not so much for the animals sake, but the people eating the animals, I think "chicken factories" should not be supported with my dollar, so I guess that was about as close a ethical reason that I had.

Going vegan is nuts, life with out dairy is tough. I have friends that have done it for extended periods of time, and depending on where you live, you may even be able to go out and eat with them.

PETA makes me want stomp bunnies, otherwise fine people take it like religion or Amway. I've always been pretty nuetral on life style choices that don't effect other people, eating meat isn't wrong, not eating meat isn't right. PETA zealots often take tactics that do fit wrong, very very wrong.

Just rambling... and now I have sushi on my mind.