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Postby MecosKing » Wed Feb 08, 2006 5:26 am

Well, this situation happens pretty often in 6 max. you raise with a middle pair, get threebet by a mizor on whom you have no read, the flop comes the worst flop ever, and you endup OOP and facing a bet. Im pretty shure this is a standard muck here, but then,part of me feels like i gave up too easily.

Stuck4Lyfe raises [$20].
poetmagician raises [$30].
F_the_Facts folds.
CDM_Buffs folds.
pyckeu folds.
thakilla folds.
Stuck4Lyfe calls [$10].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Td, Ad, 6d ]
Stuck4Lyfe checks.
poetmagician bets [$10].
Stuck4Lyfe folds.
poetmagician does not show cards.
poetmagician wins $82

Any different if the flop didnt come with the three flush?

just wondering what you mizors woulda done..
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Postby ndavis » Wed Feb 08, 2006 7:53 am

The A would scare me more then the the 3 flush board. I am guessing that you had something like 77 or 88. Since you checked on the flop he is going to bet anything, the 6, or just a high diamond. Lead out on the flop if he just calls lead out again on the turn folding to a raise.

You did give up too easily he might have folded to a flop bet, he probably would have folded 2nd pair there with no diamond. But if you have 88 and he has KQ with a diamond you are a dog there to win.
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Postby Kuso » Wed Feb 08, 2006 9:03 am

wwcrd?

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Postby Xaston » Wed Feb 08, 2006 6:35 pm

Boy, you got me confused with a man who repeats himself.
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Postby MecosKing » Wed Feb 08, 2006 9:40 pm

I gotta say, i have to stand by what i did here. With no read on a mizor, i have no idea how he'll play a variety of hands, and with the preflop action and the board, i really have almost no chance of figuring out where im at, in a pot where the chances that i am beat are probably greater than the chances i am good. I had [9c] [9s] in that hand btw.

What hands am i beating here? 88 and less (with hopefully no redraw like my hand) and QK with no diamond. Those are abuot the only three betting hands that i am beating. If he has JJ or QQ, with no redraw, will he call? I dunno because i have no read on him, but usually if theres just an ace out there, and no other overcards, a mizor will call down his big pair. If he has a big diamond and no other pair, how will he play it? Will he raise/bet/check behind of he misses, or will he call/call/check and make it easy on me? If i lead the flop and get called and the turn comes blank, do i leead again? He could easily flat call [As] [Ks] in this spot. If i get called then and the river blanks off, then what? Bet? If i check i get bet at automatically, and now im stuck in the pot for a fair amount and feel like i ought to see the river, but on the other hand, a bet just seems like spewing.

And if a diamond comes what do i do? Do i represent it and bet? If i check i subject myself to an autobet which i can't call, so its either bet or giveup. If i bet and get called, i have to check, and get bet at again most likely, or else bet again and probably lose the hand anyway.

Basically, the way i look at it is if 95% of the scenarios i can imagine in a hand are bad, and 5% are good (as in he ditches his hand right there), then i am done with the hand. Getting involved in this is -EV. If you combine the chances i am already beat with chances that a diamond could kill me, i bet i have like 20% equity in this pot. Mixin it up here is a bad idea in my opinion- and beleive me, i usually like to find any excuse to do just that, but not here.
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