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Anybody Play This Differently?

Postby Tiburon » Tue Feb 14, 2006 9:40 am

This hand was pretty much the only blackmark on the evening session's mastery. I don't think I played it poorly, but I'd love your opinions:

CO was 35/13/1.75 if i recall, but I would've defended my blind against almost anyone in the CO with this hand. I think after he woke up on the turn I went into check-call mode because he could've had AK as easily as he had KQ.


PokerStars 3/6 Hold'em (7 handed)

Preflop: Hero is BB with [6d], [9d].
UTG calls, 2 folds, CO raises, Button calls, 1 fold, Hero calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (8.33 SB) [Qc], [9h], [6s] (4 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, CO bets, Button calls, Hero raises, UTG folds, CO 3-bets, Button folds, Hero caps, CO calls.

Turn: (8.66 BB) [Kh] (2 players)
Hero bets, CO raises, Hero calls.

River: (12.66 BB) [7s] (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 14.66 BB

Results in white below:
Hero has 6d 9d (two pair, nines and sixes).
CO has Qh Kc (two pair, kings and queens).
Outcome: CO wins 14.66 BB.
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Postby Derk » Tue Feb 14, 2006 9:42 am

I'd play it the same way.
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Postby Ichoi » Tue Feb 14, 2006 10:28 am

I'd play it the same way I think, but I'd feel pretty sick after his turn raise and go into check/call, and hope to see AA.
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Postby Kuso » Tue Feb 14, 2006 10:34 am

i would play it the same way without reads, but a read would be very valuable here.

do you have the "win SD when raise turn" stat on PAhud? this is VERY useful for LHE.
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Postby Tiburon » Tue Feb 14, 2006 10:45 am

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Postby Kuso » Tue Feb 14, 2006 10:57 am

interpreting this stat is tricky.

the safe numbers are >90% is easy fold and <70% is easy call. in between you have to do some creative interpretation. i think it's fairly safe to narrow these ranges to 85 and 75, but after that you have to rely on other stats, reads, board/hand reading, pot odds, etc. the pot odds in relation to this stat is probably telling.

LAGs and sLAGs are usually easy calls, imho.

these numbers are NOT scientific, they're just based on my intuition and experience. if someone can come up with better numbers and explain why they're better, that would be great.
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Postby piersmajestyk » Tue Feb 14, 2006 1:25 pm

Yeah that turn was pretty nasty and you nearly have to put him on KQ or better here in my opinion but if he has just the KQ you still need to call that turn raise because you have odds to hit your 4 outer for a full. Not much you could have done different here except that I would have likely bet out on the flop instead of going for a CR, perhaps the guy in the middle calls the raiser raises you and you can three bet the flop. It worked out that you got 4 bets in anyway but when facing 3 or more opponents in a situation like this and I am first to act I generally just go ahead and fire into them all and hope to trap them for multiple bets on the flop if I can [particularly when the preflop raiser is near the last to act].
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Postby The Golden 1 » Tue Feb 14, 2006 1:34 pm

I agree with leading out here with the raiser in late position, maybe you think your bottom two is fragile and you need to protect it but you can still accomplish that by leading out and the PFR raises then you can 3 bet. If the PFR has an overpair he's raising, if he has aq or qk he's raising, if not he's probably just calling and in that case you know your two pair is in quite good shape.
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